Who Is God?
How would you answer these questions of Agur?
Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has bound the waters in a garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name, and what is His Son’s name,
If you know?
Why did Agur ask those questions? What was he wanting us to learn or to think about? One thing I get from his questions is that my name cannot be offered as an answer to even one question. Therefore, I need to know that I am not God and should not act as though I am, but I should submit myself to Him who does all those things. DR
What moves one church to give generously, but another to hold onto their funds? The churches of Macedonia gave liberally, and Paul revealed why when he said of them, “And not only as we had hoped, but they first gave themselves to the Lord, and then to us by the will of God” (2Co 8.5).
Some Christians give themselves to the Lord, but will not give themselves to preachers of the Gospel. Some give themselves to preachers, but not to the Lord. Of course, some Christians do not give themselves to either one.
Yet, if you find Christians, and even a whole church, who give themselves to both, you have found heaven on earth.
What does your weekly giving reveal about you? DR
“What is His name, and what is His Son’s name,
If you know?”
Jehovah is his name in English and his son is Jesus (Michael).
Jesus is Michael? Steven, you will have to show that to me in the Bible.
1. Michael is the only holy angel other than Gabriel named in the Bible, and the only one called “archangel.” (Jude 9)
2. The first occurrence of the name is in the tenth chapter of Daniel, where Michael is described as “one of the foremost princes”; he came to the aid of a lesser angel who was opposed by “the prince of the royal realm of Persia.” Michael was called “the prince of [Daniel’s] people,” “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Daniel 10:13, 20, 21; 12:1)
3. This points to Michael as the angel who led the Israelites through the wilderness. (Exodus 23:20, 21, 23; 32:34; 33:2) Lending support to this conclusion is the fact that “Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body.”—Jude 9.
4. Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel.
5. The name it self means “Who is like God”.
1. On point one, we are in agreement, not because one of us is right, and the other agrees, but because that is just the way it is in Scripture.
2. On point two, Daniel 10 is not the first occurrence of the name, “Michael.” Here are the biblical references: Numbers 13.13; 1 Chronicles 5.13, 14; 6.40; 7.3; 8.16; 12.20; 27.18; 2 Chronicles 21.2; Ezra 8.8; Daniel 10.13, 21; 12.1; Jude 9; Revelation 12.7. Granted not all of these refer to the archangel, but on point 5, you state what the name Michael means, as though it could only refer to Jesus, but these other references show that is not true.
3. On point three, you make a great leap from the previous point. Simply because the Book of Daniel refers to Michael as the prince of God’s people, does not mean he is the one who led God’s people in the wilderness. For example, in Exodus 19, God, that is, Jehovah, declared that He had brought Israel out of Egypt (v. 4). Does that mean Michael is Jehovah? Your statement about Michael being Jesus who disputed with the devil about the body of Moses is a connection that you have made, but that is just not in the text.
4. On point four, you are correct that Michael is the chief angel, but how does that make him Jesus? Is not God the Father also head over the angels? Does that make Him Michael or Jesus? Since First Thessalonians 4.16 declares that Jesus will descend from heaven with the voice of the archangel, you conclude that Jesus must be the archangel, but the text also says Jesus will descend with a shout and with the trumpet of God. Therefore, according to your reasoning, Jesus is a shout and a trumpet.
5. On point five, I have already addressed your declaration in my response to your third point above. Also, many people under the Old Testament had names that designated something about God, but that does not make those people Jesus or God. For example, “Elisha,” means “My God is salvation.”
Sorry for the repeats. Do not know why this occurred.
I removed the repeated postings. I am not sure either why it repeated.
So, who do you say Michael is? We know Jehovah is not Jesus.
Michael is the archangel, nothing more, nothing less. He is simply the leader of the angels.
Jesus is Jehovah. Read Isaiah 6 where Isaiah saw the Lord (v. 1), Jehovah of hosts (vv. 3, 5), the King (v. 5); then read John 12.37-41, and you will discover that John referenced Isaiah 6 in speaking of Jesus. Then in John 12.41, John said that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus in Isaiah 6.